THIS is where our "terrorism funds" go.

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  1. Coeloptera

    Coeloptera G&G Newbie

    Top Stories: Springs bus service gets $382,000 in anti-terrorism grants | security, bus, ramblin : Gazette.com

    "Colorado Springs-based Ramblin Express, which shuttles gamblers to mountain-town casinos, including Cripple Creek, has received $382,000 in anti-terrorism grants."

    I just can barely say anything coherent about this.

    "Whatever security measures the grants paid for, they weren't enough to prevent an armed robbery aboard a Ramblin Express bus in August 2006."

    That about says it all, doesn't it?

    No endeavor is so potentially useful that it will not be gutted for pork.

    - Coeloptera
     
  2. Rave

    Rave G&G Evangelist

    I might say something,but,then again....:drive:
     

  3. Cyrano

    Cyrano Resident Curmudgeon Forum Contributor

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    I keep trying to tell myself, "Look on the bright side. Colorado is the home of the Air Force Academy and the USAF SPace Command (or whatever they've renamed NORAD under Cheyenne Mountain). So it's not like the money is totally wasted..." but I can't get past the fact that the Peoples Democratic Republic of New York has more potential terrorist targets than any other state in the Union, including California, Nevada and Virginia; yet because our so-called senators care more about the Democratic Party than they do about doing what they supposedly were elected to do and representing the State of New York and to fight for the State of New York in the Congress, the money we desperately need to harden potential targets ranging from the hydropower plants up by Niagara Falls to the nuclear power plant down the road from me, the silver depository at West Point and the Watervleit Arsenal, sole supplier of tank cannon to the US Army, have money that should have been allocated to NY pissed away to other states by the Department of Homeland Security.
     
  4. A big problem . . .

    . . . when "emergency" funding is crammed through the House and the Senate as no one wants to vote against anti-terrorism yet there is no review or oversight of the funding bill.
     
  5. Armed robbery is terrorism? I thought preying on innocent citizens to strike fear in them was terrorism, and that Armed robbery is just called armed robbery.
     
  6. Don't blame that on the Democrats. New York is a Democratic state, and the Department of Homeland Security is run by Republicans. They're the ones who decide where the money goes.
     
  7. You wouldn't beleive the Pork Barrel waste in Homeland Security !!!
    Our little city got a brand new Bomb squad truck with a robot... Our Volunteer Fire department's are over flowing with new fire trucks and equipment, which thats not bad.
    A.H
     
  8. It's an ill wind that blows no good; glad it's doing your community some good. But I do kind of wonder about a policy that slights New York, Los Angeles and other population centers with tempting targets, and scatters money across the country willy-nilly instead.
     
  9. Wingwiper

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    It is the RECIEVERs of the FUNDS who cheat the Government and not the Government cheating the taxpayers by fraudulently giving it to them. This is what YOU all pay the senators and Congress folks to do, CLOSE THE LOOP HOLES.


    We have all heard stories about the $100 Hammer, well that is because the Govt is held to contract and the contractors have learned aways to add in cost over runs, that don't exist etc. This has been going on for years and you probably know many people who have one way or anther cheated the govt.

    I see it when our roads get washed out in the spring and our town thru whatever means they do it, finds a way to collect some DIASTER AIDE. It is something that happens every spring, but we got new culverts and tons ad tons of crushed rock and a lot of shoulder work, all under some federal Diaster Aide. Every town does it and most but not all of the contractors do it. The Govt has always been looked at as an easy target. Don't blame the govt for the fraud, blame your neighbors, your friends, and the contractors, everyone does it and then tries to pass the buck. hell. when you cheat on your taxes you are doing it. So whether it is pork or cheating, same difference. Next time you see a C-130 flying, ask yourself why we have so many and you may find out that a certain Senator has been getting re-elected over and over with the promise he will keep the plant open in his home state. That is cheating for the sake of jobs, but still cheating. So NO! it isn't always PORK, it is most of the time a miss use in the qualifications.
     
  10. soonerborn

    soonerborn G&G Newbie

    I agree and disagree with ya here Troy. I agree dont blame this on democrats. I disagree with your attempt to blame it on republicans. Its the nature of big government, every politician is responsible for garbage like this.

    Dems do like that big government though, so maybe they get a might more blame, but really with the pansy republicans we have today most of them are nothing more than moderate democrats.
     
  11. If this is safety and security, I'd rather fend for myself. Those cool new toys are for when the masses wake up. This not about terrorism, this is about the total control grid being established. A terrorist is anybody that clings to God and guns and sovereignty. Any body that opposes them in other words. Freedom is the new enemy. They steal money from us to build walls around us.
     
  12. Silent Shooter

    Silent Shooter G&G Newbie

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    Oddly enough, I got htis email this morning... how fitting.


    By Charlie Reese --
    Politicians are the only people in the world who create problems and
    then campaign against them. Have you ever wondered why, if both the
    Democrats and the Republicans are against deficits, we have
    deficits? Have you ever wondered why, if all the politicians are
    against inflation and high taxes, we have inflation and high taxes?

    You and I don't propose a federal budget. The president does. You
    and I don't have the Constitutional authority to vote on
    appropriations. The House of Representatives does.

    You and I don't write the tax code, Congress does. You and I don't
    set fiscal policy, Congress does. You and I don't control monetary
    policy, The Federal Reserve Bank does.

    One hundred senators, 435 congressmen, one president and nine Supreme
    Court justices - 545 human beings out of the 300 million - are
    directly, legally, morally and individually responsible for the
    domestic problems that plague this country.

    I excluded the members of the Federal Reserve Board because that
    problem was created by the Congress. In 1913, Congress delegated its
    Constitutional duty to provide a sound currency to a federally
    chartered but private central bank.

    I excluded all the special interests and lobbyists for a sound reason.
    They have no legal authority. They have no ability to coerce a
    senator, a congressman or a president to do one cotton-picking
    thing. I don't care if they offer a politician $1 million dollars
    in cash. The politician has the power to accept or reject it. No
    matter what the lobbyist promises, it is the legislator's
    responsibility to determine how he votes.

    Those 545 human beings spend much of their energy convincing you that
    what they did is not their fault. They cooperate in this common con
    regardless of party.

    What separates a politician from a normal human being is an excessive
    amount of gall. No normal human being would have the gall of a
    Speaker, who stood up and criticized the President for creating
    deficits.

    The president can only propose a budget. He cannot force the
    Congress to accept it. The Constitution, which is the supreme law
    of the land, gives sole responsibility to the House of Representatives
    for originating and approving appropriations and taxes.

    Who is the speaker of the House? She is the leader of the majority
    party. She and fellow House members, not the president, can approve
    any budget they want. If the president vetoes it, they can pass it
    over his veto if they agree to.

    It seems inconceivable to me that a nation of 300 million cannot
    replace 545 people who stand convicted -- by present facts - of
    incompetence and irresponsibility. I can't think of a single
    domestic problem that is not traceable directly to those 545 people.

    When you fully grasp the plain truth that 545 people
    exercise the power of the federal government, then it must follow that
    what exists is what they want to exist.

    If the tax code is unfair, it's because they want it unfair.

    If the budget is in the red, it's because they want it in the red.

    If the Marines are in IRAQ, it's because they want them in IRAQ.

    If they do not receive social security but are on an elite retirement
    plan not available to the people, it's because they want it that way.

    There are no insoluble government problems.

    Do not let these 545 people shift the blame to bureaucrats, whom they
    hire and whose jobs they can abolish; to lobbyists, whose gifts and
    advice they can reject; to regulators, to whom they give the power to
    regulate and from whom they can take this power.

    Above all, do not let them con you into the belief that there exists
    disembodied mystical forces like 'the economy,' 'inflation' or
    'politics' that prevent them from doing what they take an oath to do.

    Those 545 people, and they alone, are responsible. They, and they
    alone, have the power. They, and they alone, should be held
    accountable by the people who are their bosses - provided the voters
    have the gumption to manage their own employees.

    We should vote all of them out of office and clean up their mess!
     
  13. Well, I suppose I could have worded it better. I didn't mean to imply that only Republicans do that sort of thing; they don't have a patent on it.

    I was just pointing out that in this case, since it was Republicans administering the money from an agency in the executive branch, it shouldn't be blamed on Democrats in Congress.
     
  14. Wingwiper

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    Democrats are the MAJORITY and have been for over two years.
    I will go back to my post, it ain't from the Gov it is from the recievers who are finding the loopholes to gain the funds.
     
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