We liberate them...and they go back.

Discussion in 'The Powder Keg' started by Doglips, Oct 13, 2002.

  1. Doglips

    Doglips Guest

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    Hummm we send American troops...they fight..and die....to liberate these people from under the yoke of Bin Laden and his fundamentla furball friends......they smile and then go back to the way it was.....am I missing something here????? If they go beack to being a strict muslim country again will the still be our friends??? (Bet a beer on Heck no)..... I will say it one more time...any thing less than total war....all out no holds bard...winner keeps the country losers are dead...is a total waste...but hay Im just a paranoid, isolaionist, gun nut who eats red meat so what do I know.

    Afghan Women Wary Of Vice & Virtue

    AFGHANISTAN, Oct. 7, 2002

    Afghan women wearing burqa shop in market, Mazar-e-Sharif, Afghanistan. (AP)

    The Taliban's brutal "vice and virtue police" beat women for even minor violations of strict rules of dress and conduct. There is no suggestion such excesses are about to recur but bad memories linger.

    (CBS) Women learning to work as skilled laborers alongside men would seem a perfect example of how Afghanistan has banished the Taliban mentality. But, as CBS News Correspondent Allen Pizzey reports, in a development Washington is watching closely, the Kabul government has re-instituted the department of vice and virtue to safeguard Islamic values.

    "It was a demand by some groups and we have accommodated it, but the real trend in Afghanistan is to move toward a civil society," says presidential spokesman Saeed Fazul Akhbar.

    The Taliban's brutal "vice and virtue police" beat women for even minor violations of strict rules of dress and conduct. There is no suggestion such excesses are about to recur -- but bad memories linger.

    "All of the things that came out of that office made the women of Afghanistan ... made their lives a living hell," says Theresa Loar, of the group Vital Voices. "Many of the Afghan women we are working with ... are looking at this, they are very concerned, very cautious."

    The new incarnation of vice and virtue falls under the Ministry of Justice and department head Mustafa Qassimi, who says it will merely "advise" on Islamic norms.

    "Advice" in the form of snide remarks from local men has been given to the women working on the American charity-run building site. Mercy Corp Project Manager Storai Sadat dismisses the verbal harassment as the price of progress.

    "Just some sentences like 'Look at them they are working like foreigners,' so I say you have to deal with these small sentences," says Sadat.

    Partly out of tradition and partly to avoid the problems that are a legacy of the Taliban, many women here still wear the all-encompassing burqa.

    But they are also determined to keep and build on their new-won rights. At the end of an eight hour day which earns them $1, the women builders spend another hour learning to read and write.

    "I will be happy if I can help my children with their lessons," a woman says through a translator.

    And she can draw hope and inspiration from the fact that women now hold cabinet posts and serve as deputy ministers.

    "If the woman is working very hard, I'm sure they will get the power," says Tajwar Kakar, the deputy minister of women's affairs.

    But neither hard work nor virtue police will deter these Afghan women.


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  2. PAPA G

    PAPA G G&G Evangelist Forum Contributor

    nothing short of total nuclear annialation, is going to wipe out the Muslims extremism!!!
     

  3. colt45

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    Thats kinda like tossing the baby out with the bath water isn't it?
    I'm still for pulling out all together from every country over there and redrill all the oil wells we caped off in Texas and Alaska and say to h e l l with them all let them live in the stone age and kill each other off as long as they do it on thier side of the pond.
    when its all over then try and make peace with the winner. that way you are only dealing with one radicle not dozens of seperate ones.