It's featured in this video too that he did not too long ago...
Haha, for sure.Poor guy was almost apologetic about kinda liking it 😂
I have my little Diamondback DB9 Jerry. I stick it in my right front pocket when I go to WalMart, Tractor Supply, etc. In a nutshell I think about it as a bare essential tool that will hopefully get me to my truck where a more suitable tool is at. I do need to make myself shoot it more than I have up to this point. The micros have a place in my life, but I must admit it's hard to love them. I couldn't bond with the 1st gen Ruger LCP that I had so I traded it back to the dealer I bought it from after putting just a few rounds through it. I also have a little S&W 380 M&P Bodyguard that I have scarcely used also. I need to work on trying to develop a little love for it too.I think I’ve convinced myself I do not want any of these micro 9’s. At least not in the near future. Looking at compacts and sub compacts that can be compacts with mag options are more appealing. Yeah, they have potential in a niche of pocket guns, but I can pocket cary my LCR and LC380 if I choose to, which isn’t often.
Thanks Rex & Jaison
I don’t mind smaller guns. I tend to shoot them okay.
I never really had a strong desire to own the P365 during its current tenure.
When the competition came out with their own renditions, I thought I’d at least educate myself.
I did so to the point of being on the edge of consideration of the technology in general. Still not in love with the P365.
It has really boiled down to a field of me too products with a small twist here or there.
Prices are too high right now, on everything.
Also had to ask myself if I really need another 9 to feed?
I’m not a 365 hater. I did however end up with the same no cares to give about the field after doing a bunch of research.
Summary- At the moment, the juice doesn’t seem worth the squeeze.
I guess for me, knowing all the limitations, these things can be an 'always have it with you' type of gun AND can be pocket carried if I need a tucked shirt without outer garment (I know there are tuckable holsters but they don't 'do it' for me). Kinda like a modern-day J-frame but with more ammo and a little more punch (and able to be shot more accurately to boot).Haha! Understood.
My buddy calls the new rash of micros the Joe Nemecheks of guns- the ‘also rans’.
Seems like a lot of manufacturers are piling on. Guess they’re filling the market wants.
The little ‘uns have their place, but I’m also sticking with the larger gats.
Good point about the angry animal. For many years it was illegal to carry a handgun in some of the mountain states while archery or black powder hunting. So, walking around with a Hawken 50, single shot, limited to round balls only, was not so bad, just what you had to do. Davy Crockett and Daniel Boone concept.I guess for me, knowing all the limitations, these things can be an 'always have it with you' type of gun AND can be pocket carried if I need a tucked shirt without outer garment (I know there are tuckable holsters but they don't 'do it' for me). Kinda like a modern-day J-frame but with more ammo and a little more punch (and able to be shot more accurately to boot).
If your situation allows a G19, VP-40, 1911, etc. to be regularly carried with outer garment, untucked shirt, or open more power to 'ya. I think most would prefer the larger capacity, better ballistics, better sight radius or sighting system, etc. And I often DO carry OWB with these things when the situation permits it.
But I'm out and back and out and around quite a bit. While it's some work to dress around the gun to get a fuller size pistol, sometimes I'm lazy or the situation precludes it. So the smaller 9s fill a nice role in this case and I can have it pretty much everywhere. Yup--there ARE definite limitations and if on the day I'm taking a 15 yard head shot or facing an angry animal who can hurt me I'll probably be wishing I'd have strapped on my VP-40 (if I didn't) but at least these things give me NO excuse not to have something in a major caliber.
I have taken them all apart, field strip to detail strip the slide. The Ruger is a tank. The Springfield is a Glock (much more than the XDs), the Taurus is a good imitation of the 365, I didn't compare the firing pins, but I am NOT having the die cast firing pin out of the Sig until I see a LOT more people north of 10k rounds with no break. Otherwise what am I going to do? Keep one firing pin for the range and a fresh one for carry? AND it's a pain to swap compared to all but the Hellcat. Out of all of them the 4" Shield feels like heaven in my hand, and many they are nearly the same as the proven Shield 2.0, but sacrifices in feel/capacity I'd take the G48 in a heart beat. At the end of the day, (maybe after my trigger job and an optic) I am going to shoot any if them effectively at 30 yards. They all conceal EASY and hold 10 rounds of more. I'll take the one that will be easiest to work on and last to fail.After a bunch of you tube vids, and rag articles, I went seeking the real thing. The marketing dream, the MICRO 9
I’ll try to be brief.
let’s start with the prettiest girl to the ball first. Sig P365. Solid, good rep, balanced. The initial issues and 3 striker iterations are burned in my brain. Almost too small in grip. I’d need to shoot it. That goes for everything.
Springfield HellCat. Feels okay. Good grip. I’m still a bit butt hurt with them politically if I didn’t have other choices, I’d look harder at it. Basically I held it to say I did.
S&W Shield Plus. A little bigger than the rest, but nice. That size, they say, makes it a bit more “shootable” S&W rep, M&P rep. Nice mag options. Great finish. I’m intrigued.
Ruger Max 9
Ahem…..I’m a Ruger guy. Immediately this felt top heavy. The LC9 trigger was very curved and had to index far forward to reach. Optic ready, good job, but probly not ready for that yet. Finish… blah. My LC380 has same finish and as much as I like the gun, only one I’ve had a rust spot on. I have a Gen2 1993 Glock with cop holster wear to bare metal with no rust. In the store, I couldn’t pick up the front sight. That’s a selling point, that front sigjt. I think in day light or almost dark to dark I’d been okay. I am damned apologetic, but I just couldn’t “feel” it.
Taurus GX4. Im sorry God and all the little pygmies. I liked its weight and balance. Grip texture, finish. Their web site has a lot of options. Front sight, extended mags, holsters. Yeah, need a tool or cartridge rim for take down. That does make it slick on the sides omitting a lever or Glock grab type take down. (Beats Rugers pin) This and the shield, I really wanted to shoot.
Price: Dunham’s was MSRP close to +
My go to LGS had everything in stock below MSRP. To kick in more data, The GX4 was $379.
It was an interesting trip. As a side note. All three places I visited had ammo. I bought a 40 round box of Tula 7.62x39 for $14 and some change. Pre pandemic was $9-$10 per 40. I like the way it shoots as well.
If. Go down the micro 9 road, I have a bit of soul searching to do. Soul searching mainly because I swore I’d never own a Taurus semi auto pistol.
Bersa is one of the niche brands with an established cult following. Not as many dealears carry them and not many owners sell them.Out of curiosity, have any of you gents run across any Bersa 83s in the course of your micro-nine searches? In ten words or less, it is a Bersa Thunder 380 without the frame lock and an external slide release lever. I've been looking for one for years, because while I like the feel of the Bersa Thunder, I won't own a pistol with a frame lock -- or "the lawyer lock," as I refer to it.
They never seem to appear in the used pistol cases here. I don't know if it is because Bersas don't sell hereabouts, or because people like them so much that they don't trade them in at the gun shop.
The people I know who have Bersas keep them. They look like my PPK/s, but they cost less than half, and the ones I have fired shot better than the 2 Walthers I have owned. FWIWBersa is one of the niche brands with an established cult following. Not as many dealears carry them and not many owners sell them.
Nothing comes around used right now.
They are a good imitation of the Walther, but a little looser with their own quirks. They do have a decent trigger pull and most of the fixed barrel guns (Walter PPK and these Bersas) have good accuracy.The people I know who have Bersas keep them. They look like my PPK/s, but they cost less than half, and the ones I have fired shot better than the 2 Walthers I have owned. FWIW
I love the Ruger P series but only have one, the P95. I keep a light on it and use it for my RV travel gun. I have many high cap 9s and it is the most accurate. I do not carry is as a CCW just because of it's size. My buddy likes them so well in 45 acp, he sold all his Sigs and keeps his Colt 1911s in the safe, he bought 2 of them and would buy more. I would buy them in 40 or 45 in a heartbeat.They are a good imitation of the Walther, but a little looser with their own quirks. They do have a decent trigger pull and most of the fixed barrel guns (Walter PPK and these Bersas) have good accuracy.
It's like the old Ruger P series, most people won't part with them for what they are worth. They are too hard to replace.