So what is 40 rounds of 45-70 worth these days? Loaded 20 with 350 grain round nose and 20 with 405 grain flat nose. Used 48 grains of IMR 3031. These are new Starline nickel cases. Bought 100 rounds of them just for the looks in the leather belt. Gives that Quigley Down Under look. I have used more powder in the past but really have no need for it so dropped it down a little. They both will have about 2,500 foot pounds at the muzzle and 1,700 at 150 yards about as far as I would want to shoot it. Love the 45-70.