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Proven "recipe" which performs well in all .32 ACPs is to cast your own from Accurate 31-081H bullet mold from wheelweights or backstop scrap.
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This bullet mimics the CIP hardball profile, maintaining the correct nose length with a 0.18" diameter meplat, weighing 80 grains in wheelweights. Tumble lube Lee Liquid Alox just a light coating to turn bullets a uniform brassy color. Size to 0.311" diameter. Load with either 2 grains of TiteGroup, 2.4 grains of Bullseye, 3 grains of Unique or Autocomp at 0.97" OAL. Very close approximation to Euro-CIP heavy ball at 950+/-30 fps from 3.4" Beretta pistol. Penetrates 30 inches in water jugs or 16-18" in calibrated milspec Kind & Knox Pharmagel Ordnance Type 250A.
 

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In defense of the 32 ACP, it has killed more Hitlers than any other caliber.




All US ammo is lawyer-loaded now. Some of the Eastern Euro ammo, or ammo coming out of South America is loaded more to spec, but rarely to the old military spec.

9mm, 32 auto and 380 Auto, in particular, are wussy-loaded in comparison to their WWII iterations. Modern ammo won't even cycle some old guns.

I can't tell you how many Lugers and old pocket guns I've saved from the gunsmith by handing people a box of Fiocchi or S&B. People would rather ruin a historical artifact than believe ammo is weaker than it used to be.

In the Dark Ages of the internet there was a forensics specialist, and gun guy, who posted his reports on blogspot.com. It was mostly slightly morbid reports on ammo based on how it had performed in the real world.

One of the ones I remember best is him nerding out over a gangbanger's corpse. He had the victim, the brass cases, and the gun used to kill him; a 1st gen Glock 19. What really made it interesting is the variety of ammo used. Old Wehrmacht ammo, modern hollowpoints of various types, fancy self-defence ammo, and two rounds of .380 that somehow managed to get fired by the Glock.

Most of the hollowpoints hadn't even expanded, some of the defense rounds had terrible penetration, the .380s had keyholed and done a surprising amount of damage, but the round that actually killed him was one of the German ones. It had blown through a rib and shredded his heart. Another "Luger" round had done fatal damage to his liver.
It's been my understanding that 8X57 has been loaded down in the US due to GI' s bringing back souvenirs that may have a .318 bore rather that the now standard .323. Can't remember the letter designation for which is which, J, and JS
 

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It's been my understanding that 8X57 has been loaded down in the US due to GI' s bringing back souvenirs that may have a .318 bore rather that the now standard .323. Can't remember the letter designation for which is which, J, and JS
The "j" was the Commission rifle load, and the JS was for the 1898 series rifles. There's also JRS and JR rounds which are basically the "JS" and "J) with a domed rim.

I've had a couple of German single-barrel hunting rifles that used these.

I honestly can't tell if the commercial JS are lawyer-loaded or not as I've never shot original German ammo. I know modern loads are light compared to Yugo, Egyptian and Turk loads, but PPU, in my experience, is pretty close to the Greek ammo. I have one round of WWI Mauser ammo in my collection, and someone, at some time, carved an X on the bullet. The round was found in a box of thrift store buttons, so I don't know its provenance. I also have a clip of WW2 German Mauser ammo, but it is unique in that the factory code doesn't technically exist (maybe it does now, because there's a whole group dedicated to mystery German head stamps, but it didn't 10 years ago).
 

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Proven "recipe" which performs well in all .32 ACPs is to cast your own from Accurate 31-081H bullet mold from wheelweights or backstop scrap.
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This bullet mimics the CIP hardball profile, maintaining the correct nose length with a 0.18" diameter meplat, weighing 80 grains in wheelweights. Tumble lube Lee Liquid Alox just a light coating to turn bullets a uniform brassy color. Size to 0.311" diameter. Load with either 2 grains of TiteGroup, 2.4 grains of Bullseye, 3 grains of Unique or Autocomp at 0.97" OAL. Very close approximation to Euro-CIP heavy ball at 950+/-30 fps from 3.4" Beretta pistol. Penetrates 30 inches in water jugs or 16-18" in calibrated milspec Kind & Knox Pharmagel Ordnance Type 250A.
This seems to be the ticket!
 

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That's what she said
That may sound clever and funny, but my friend may be facing a belligerent ass that will be bent on hurting her. Shooting this aggressor may be the only alternative to being seriously injured by this animal. The creature has spent time in prison and has committed both assault and rape in the past. He may kill her in a drunken, or drug-fueled (cannabis) rage. He's also a pedophile.

It is an established pattern for this creep.
 

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My friend took my advice and ordered 200 rounds of PMC FMJ ammunition. While it may not be the "whiz-bang" hollowpoint ammunition used in other, higher-powered pistol cartridges, the 900 fps. 71-grain ball ammunition should penetrate a sternum and puncture a lung.

I told her that she needs to practice the "Mozambique drill" (two rounds to the chest, and one to the head) until it becomes a programmed reflex (muscle memory). Repeat, until the threat is neutralized. The 3.7" barrel of her Zastava M70 should have enough "runway" for the bullet to reach 875-910 fps. At a maximum of 3 yards, (living-room range) it should have enough energy to do the job.
 

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These days you should presume any bad guy is wearing body armor. Instead of center chest shots go for the lateral pelvis. Most body armor is cut 2 inches higher at the front waist for comfort while seated in a vehicle. Important safety tip -
Bad guys almost never wear groin protectors. So aim below the belt buckle or for hip ball joint itself if standing broadside to you. Even .32 will reliably put him down. FMJ hardball rivets against a hip joint and messes everything up.
Realistic velocities:

PMC 71 FMJ gave 862 fps from my 3.4 inch Beretta M1935.
Current production W-W 71 FMJ 847 fps
Current production R-P 71 FMJ 837 fps
1980s RWS 73 grain was 919 fps
2010 Geco 73 FMJ 973 fps
Fiocchi 73 - grain FMJ 938 fps
WW2 issue German Geco 73 - grain steel case 1001 fps!
Norma 77 - grain FMJ 917 fps
S-B steel core 68-grain Cold War era from the 1970s loaded for the Vz61 machine pistol gave 1209 fps from the 3.4 inch Beretta and defeated a Level IIA vest.

My handload 90 Hdy XTP. 309" 3 grains AutoComp 933 fps, 0.955"OAL approximates .380 ACP payload and energy, expands to .40 cal and penetrates 14-16 inches in calibrated gelatin. Same charge with 93-grain FMJ .30 Luger bullet gives 955 fps and does 20 inches of gelatin.
 

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I told her that she needs to practice the "Mozambique drill" (two rounds to the chest, and one to the head) until it becomes a programmed reflex (muscle memory). Repeat, until the threat is neutralized. The 3.7" barrel of her Zastava M70 should have enough "runway" for the bullet to reach 875-910 fps. At a maximum of 3 yards, (living-room range) it should have enough energy to do the job.
In some circles, this is known as the "Cooper Couplet." The late Colonel Jeff Cooper promoted it aggressively in his column in Guns & Ammo:

Two in the chest and one in the head
Always leaves the subject dead.
 
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In some circles, this is known as the "Cooper Couplet." The late Colonel Jeff Cooper promoted it aggressively in his column in Guns & Ammo:

Two in the chest and one in the head
Always leaves the subject dead.
Not "always" ...so that is not what they are teaching LE who are operating in a UC environment now. In eastern cities use of body armor is much more common amomg the criminal element. That is why Maryland and New York have banned civilian use of body armor. Other states are now also looking at this, and it will likely be included in the Federal compromise gun control bill.
 

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Not "always" ...so that is not what they are teaching LE who are operating in a UC environment now. In eastern cities use of body armor is much more common amomg the criminal element. That is why Maryland and New York have banned civilian use of body armor. Other states are now also looking at this, and it will likely be included in the Federal compromise gun control bill.
Colonel Cooper's reasoning, according to his column, was this: Even if the perp is wearing body armor, two in the chest will knock him backwards and maybe knock the wind out of him. Then the one in the head will finish the job.

The governors who have signed no civilian purchase of body armor laws have mush where their minds ought to be. If the so-called bipartisan "reasonable gun control" proposals become law, we will have proof the Congress and the nitwit resident at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue also do not have working brains.
 
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I'm just wondering if anyone has thought about over penetration? All I'm seeing is how well the FMJ penetrates when there is no mention of over penetration and an stray bullet going into the neighbors house. Sure the bad guy needs to be stopped, but there is other considerations.
 

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I'm just wondering if anyone has thought about over penetration? All I'm seeing is how well the FMJ penetrates when there is no mention of over penetration and an stray bullet going into the neighbors house. Sure the bad guy needs to be stopped, but there is other considerations.
I know the layout of her apartment. There's very little about which to worry. The PMC .32 rounds will likely be stopped by the wall/front door after they've expended most of their energy passing through his body. She'll be aiming at his torso and will probably strike his sternum and ribcage. Overpenetration would be of much less concern than failing to pierce his vital organs.

Breaking off the attack with a flurry of six .312" 71-grain slugs is the "prime directive".
 

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Russian Spetz used to train to aim and fire three shots at the left collarbone with the 9x18. The idea was that, under battlefield conditions, the hand would move up and right a little with each shot. First shot guaranteed that the enemy couldn't handle a weapon, second shot was bound for the neck, and third would hit the face.
 
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