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What is the CCCP?

Discussion in 'The Powder Keg' started by Snakebite, Jul 9, 2002.

  1. My new 91/30 has the cccp stamp on it and I cant find what it is or what it means. Ive seen pictures of it on some websites but no info. Also one other question. Some articles I read online refer to some of the Mosins as either a Soviet or Russian like there is a difference between the two. I thought they were the same. Anyone know?:confused:
  2. If I am not mistaken CCCP are the Russian initials (to the Russian term) equivalent to the English spelling of USSR (Union (of) Soviet Socialist Republic).

    It was popularized during the communist era after 1925, or so.

    Some in Russia, today, hold to the old CCCP as a symbol.

    I do know that the older Nagant revolvers had the CCCP stamp on them also.

    Sorry, but not being able to read Russian I don't know the Russian spelling of the full meaning of CCCP.

  3. Thanks Dale Thats what I thought it might be but wasnt sure. Makes sense though since it was made in 1926. Now for the Soviet or Russian thing. Would a gun be labeled as a "Soviet" if the country was under communist rule?
  4. Still a Soviet...fer sure.
  5. Eric

    Eric G&G Newbie

    In cirylic C's are S's and P's are R's. If theat helps.
  6. Klaus

    Klaus G&G Newbie

    Yup, it is the Cyrillic spelling of USSR. It is like someone in Belgium saying the can't find out what "US" means on a 1911A1.
  7. Soyuz Sovevtskaya Sozhyalnitsa Respublika

    Union of Soviet Socialist Republics


    The "s" sound in Cyrillic is represented by the character "C."
    The "r" sound in Cyrillic is represented by the character "P"

    There are a few other instances where the Cyrillic character resembles a letter from the Roman alphabet. One is the "n" sound looks like an "H." Many others are roughly the same; "A" is the same in both systems. Both systems derive from the Greek alphabets.

    Mosin Nagants were manufactured by the Czarist government and some US firms before the First Revolution. I am not certain whether the US stopped shipment of orders at that point, or later when the Bolsheviks launched the October Revolutioon against the moderates.
  8. Hi Rattlesnake,
    You have to remember that the names of nations, as well as the initials that you learn in the USA are often the "English" ones and NOT the same as what the country calls itself OR the same that we use to call ourselves. Some examples are:

    USSR = CCCP (Soviet Union)
    GDR = DDR (East Germany)
    FRG = BRD (Federal Republic of Germany - West)
    EUA = USA (USA in Spanish)

    and the list goes on.....
  9. PAPA G

    PAPA G G&G Evangelist Forum Contributor

    cranky, would you happen to know what EEU sands for??? it was on a heat gun. said MADE IN THE EEU. never could find what it ment.
  10. European Economic Union? I thought that was usually just "EU," though.
  11. 10 points and a big cigar to FEG!

    Yep! We call it the EU (European Union) but the "official" name is the European Economic Union. Interesting....I have yet to see anything actually marked as being made in the EU as opposed to the actual country of origin. Kinda makes you wonder where it came from huh?
  12. Not too proud, huh? Is Albania in the EU? But, I kid the Albanians...