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I'm curious to know the opinions of my fellow forum posters. Please read:

Ailing fugitive headed back to Md. years after prison escape - Yahoo! News

Do you return him to prison to serve out his sentence (maybe spent in a hospital with free medical care)? Parole him since he's served enough to qualify (ignoring the fact that he escaped and has been relatively free all these years)? Another option?

I'll be honest, I don't know what I'd do if it were my choice to make.
 

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Some things are ridiculous . . .

in the extreme and sending a very ill 81 year old back to prison is
a prime example.

What will they do? Send him to the Department of Corrections?
Exactly what will they correct in an 81 year old?

There is more a more to be said for other types of effort
as opposed to incarceration.
 

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Give him credit for time served and set him free. At age 81 I don't consider him a threat to society.
 

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Escaping from prison is a crime and usually adds time to a persons stay in the pen. The minute he escaped his time stopped. The time he was out as a fugitive doesn't count.
 

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Escaping from prison is a crime and usually adds time to a persons stay in the pen. The minute he escaped his time stopped. The time he was out as a fugitive doesn't count.
He was eligible for parole on his original sentence because he served a quarter of it before escaping. Of course, escaping isn't exactly good behavior, and adds new charges as you point out.

I don't see the point of sending him back now, though. It's a little late to rehabilitate him, and there's no benefit to society that I can see. It's cheaper to give him medical care on the outside.

I predict we'll see more of these cases, as records become more computerized and accessible.
 

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As long as he has someone to take care of him on the outside he should be let out.
IMO
 

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let him go.
he is too old to get some satisfying revenge out of.
it isnt rehabilitation.
it's revenge.
 

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It s a waste of resources from every angle. Cut him loose.There are far more important cases that need attention and the resources this example will consume.
 

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I know how much it costs to treat prisoners because we have a jail hospital here. They get better healthcare than I do. They get to see specialists and everything for whatever problem they have. I can't even get that kind of service and I pay for health insurance. Just let him go and not eat up the money in the legal system and health care system.
 

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I know how much it costs to treat prisoners because we have a jail hospital here. They get better healthcare than I do. They get to see specialists and everything for whatever problem they have. I can't even get that kind of service and I pay for health insurance. Just let him go and not eat up the money in the legal system and health care system.
They aren't that good to them in California. Our system has a track record of letting prisoners die from lack of proper treatment, and sometimes actual mistreatment. In 2005 a federal judge, saying he was acting urgently to stop the needless deaths of inmates because of medical malfeasance, ordered that a receiver take control of California's prison health care system and correct what he called deplorable conditions. He said the prison medical system offered "at times outright depravity, and I intentionally call it that."

U.S. seizes state prison health care / Judge cites preventable deaths of inmates, 'depravity' of system
 

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They aren't that good to them in California. Our system has a track record of letting prisoners die from lack of proper treatment, and sometimes actual mistreatment. In 2005 a federal judge, saying he was acting urgently to stop the needless deaths of inmates because of medical malfeasance, ordered that a receiver take control of California's prison health care system and correct what he called deplorable conditions. He said the prison medical system offered "at times outright depravity, and I intentionally call it that."

U.S. seizes state prison health care / Judge cites preventable deaths of inmates, 'depravity' of system
Wow, It might be like what you say in a lot of places, but here they get to see specialists I can't even afford. They ship them to our jail hospital from over the state to be seen here. Sometimes we fly out our specialists to their prisons to see them. I know, I've flown on a private charter flight to a prison to help treat them.
 

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I know how much it costs to treat prisoners because we have a jail hospital here. They get better healthcare than I do. They get to see specialists and everything for whatever problem they have. I can't even get that kind of service and I pay for health insurance. Just let him go and not eat up the money in the legal system and health care system.

That is what you get with a profit based health care system, you are a number, and you are a business risk. I have been denied medications because they were considered "too new" and "experimental" yet approved by the FDA, so go figure.

The old man never committed any violent crimes, and never hurt anyone. I say let him at least die outside a jail cell.
 
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