Thats right why defend it?...ok put the flame thrower down...let me finish. The thing I am saying is why are we DEFENDING and not being "Proactive"...we are happy to hear a new gun law is defeated or we smile when our "boycot" of K-mart made it go bankrupt (maybe it had an impact or maybe the management was just stupid and killed it with or with out our boycot). We make jokes about Clinton..Rosie ect...we smile when they mess up. to ME and ME only, this is like a turtle hidding in the shell waiting for the threat to go away....you do not gain ground in the defense. Ok think about it...The NRA is a powerfull lobbying group..(weather you like them or not does not matter)...as gun owners we spend a pot full of $$ not just on guns but on food, cloths, cars/trucks, houses ect. Most of us at least from what Ive seen are doing pretty good in our careers...and despite the medias view we are not liveing in some unieboomber shack out in the woods..we are viable mebers of the community. Just the $$ we pay in taxes (on firearms stuff), licenses, BAFT checks ect is stagering. Ok that said why dont WE start pushing for Pro gun laws..like requireing firarms safty in High Schools...mandatory CCW for citazins... laws like that...not trying to DEFEAT laws..TRY gettign LAWS passed for US. Same with this boycot stuff..yes some company messes up then let them feel it...but why not have the NRA or who ever come up with some kind of discout type card..no names just gun owner...then when we shop at a store they scan the card (rember no names or ID numbers)...and that way the stores can see how much $$ we spend at their place...then use that to pressure stores like Wal-mart or who ever to be very progun. Like wise we need to flex our corprete musle..we can if in the deccission makeing loop...let companies know that we prefer to work with pro gun companies.....IF we take a proactive stance instead of just makeing fun of jerks like Rosie...we could have the networks panic when someone like her says an anti gun comment.... Think I sniffed too much Hopps #9?....think about it...30 yrs ago ther were shows like amous and andy...people of color took a stand and now there is not a media person in the world who would not panic if that type of show aired. Same with alternative life styles and other groups...just try to get a show like all in the family on the air today. If we use or economic..political...and indivual influence then I believe we could get some pro gun laws passed and some actor saying an anti gun sentence would be liek they used the "N" word in terms of the back lash. Defending and trying to win by attrision will never win in the long run...we need to stop defending and get out their and fight. What do you think?