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This scenario is just food for thought now that its getting colder.
You have gas central heat but it needs electricity for the fan and ignition circuit. Electric range and electric dryer both won't work. You have a two story house with unfinished basement.
What would you do?

Note: I posted this in the Survival Gear thread because I believe you will need some stuff to get through.
 

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well I have a portable gas grill, and several small gas canisters, as well as a small charcoal grill with a almost full bag of charcoal. I live in FL so it really doesnt get that cold, we can survive with clothing and blankets, so no heat is really necessary. I have plenty of canned food. I would fill up the tub full of water as soon as I leanred that utilities were going down. This way i could use that for cooking or bathing even boiling it if i needed to. I also have several emergency fuel tablets for boiling water. I have about 8 1 gallon jugs of water and water purification tablets. I could hunt squirrels if i had too lol. and i live about 10 ft away from water so i can easily fish.

Just re-read the post:
If I was in a place with a winter storm Id just try to stay warm with clothes and blankets. and maybe try to find a way to use the gas to make a small space heater instead of using it for the central heat.
How would i do?
 

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You would be fine, but the house would take a serious hit. Frozen pipes will leak like crazy when they thaw. Need to shut off water and drain the pipes. You were spot on with saving some water for emergencies.
Also, having some plastic sheets, or tarps would allow closing off certain areas making it easier to keep a bit warmer. I bought a kerosene stove/heater but only have 5 gal of kerosene so I would use it sparingly. I have plenty of candles, batteries, flashlights, and food. I even have 3500 watt generator and 10 gal of gas (and whatever might be in the vehicles), but there have been situations when people have been without power for two weeks. I would like to install a wood stove as backup but spousal unit is reluctant because they are messy in her opinion. I will be getting a natural gas heater good for about 1100-1300 sq ft (not big enough to heat the entire house but if you close off an area it would be good). Last thing, check on the neighbors, you might be their only lifeline.

Oh yes, when you run the generator for an hour or two twice a day, be sure and charge up your cell phones.
 

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Even here in sunny north Florida, winter temps can and do hit the teens. My pipes are below ground up to the house, and insulated as they come in under it - pipes to outer faucets will be drained or the faucets on drip.
I have a Buddy Jr. heater with many propane bottles, and have the necessary parts to hook up the 20lb bottle to it. The house is all-electric, but being a longtime camper, I have all the necessary heating, lighting/cooking stuff I'd need, and stored water and food. Not a problem. Be like camping in an unfurnished cabin.
Storms here usually mean downed tree limbs too - I have my gas chainsaw for that.
 

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I have a 6KW generator, and 375 gallons of gas. The gen will run the entire house as normal except for the 3 ton A/C unit. The generator is hauled out and run to operating temp once a month. We've had to use it a few times, and it does quite well.

We cycle the gas thru the vehicles so it remains fresh.
 
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after our blizzard here in the 90's several things changed.

1) the electric water heater was replaced with a gas unit. you cannot heat enough water to take a bath. my son turned blue but never said a word....he impressed me. my wifed however perfered to go 6 days smelling like deer camp......it was awesome!!!(she was under the assumption she had to smell good to gather my affections....daughter was born 9 months later)
2) the waterbed got trashed. sleeping on lake michigan sux!!! and when the better half mentioned getting one of the new air beds i brought up the fact that sleeping on anything that might need heat under it could result in the same thing she voted for a foam bed.
3)we added anouther kerosene heater(2 now) and keep 20 gal of fuel in the winter.in this country we have the idea that the whole house has to be heated. as wicked mentioned just close off the parts of the house not needed and heat only certain parts.we don't have a basement but the idea is the same the living room would become our living/sleeping quarters.fyi... i've found running a heater at 3/4 power to give off good heat and make a tank of fuel last much longer .and at night we simply wouldn't waste fuel....i got a plump woman for heat....turn the hearters off or way down.

4)our pipes are all insulated with foam, crapping in the cold may be unpleasant but survivable(even with outside abouve ground faucets the foam has held up thru several days of below 32).if needed put 1 stove in the basement...the heat will work its way up an keep pipes unfrozen in extreme cold

cooking would be done on top of the heaters , on a portable camp stove,or outside in the firepit.no self respecting ******* doesn't have a bbq/firepit with a load of seasoned oak, hickory ,an a nice reserve of pecan wood for those special times.
 

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I've got a natural fireplace with gas logs, no need of elec to ignite; same with stove. However, your senerio said elec stove. I have a 2 burner Coleman stove and 2 Coleman backpacking stoves. I also have Weber Baby Q and small charcoal BBQ. To back that up, I have 3 rocket stoves, 3 popcan stoves and 2 tuna can stoves(works on sterno) and 2 solar cookers. I've got a constant sourse of water along with 8 cases of bottled water and 64 milk jugs filled. I've got sub zero sleeping bags, lots of blankets, portable beds and visquine to seal off parts of house.
 

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These are awesome posts. Rockman7, your waterbed / Lake Michigan analogy was priceless, got a huge chuckle when I read it.
Food for thought, I priced the long lasting survival candles at the supermarket at almost $4.00 each, so I went to the votive candle section where they had the tall votive candles (that last just as long) for $1.09 each and they come in glass containers.
Most hardware stores have 5 gal plastic buckets, and you can buy a toilet seat adapter (Luggable Loo) for 10-15 bucks. Add some plastic trash can liners for easy disposal every day.
Dare I say, in a crisis situation, be wary of any strangers that unexpectedly show up. Never turn your back on them and better have an equalizer handy or in your hand. Nuff said.
 

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Cjleete, Isn't that how you determine how cold it is by the number of huskies that you want to sleep with you. I guess Three Dog Night had it figured out - must have been a cold one.
 

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Went a week last winter with temps in the teens after a major wet snow and ice storm took out all power. Good thing I prefer cooler temps year round. Wore slippers, sweat pants, sweat shirt, slept under a cheap sleeping bag on the bed. Anyone know why a dang dog just HAS to sleep in the exact center of the bed? After a week I went to a local hardware store and bought a Big Buddy propane heater, brought it home, unpacked it and the power came back on. Never had to fire it up. I'm set for this winter though.

Cooking was accomplished on a Coleman two burner stove. I must confess that I did visit the Reservation Casino Buffet several times. The Rez has it's own power company from us off Rez folks.

Waste management was handled with water from the river used to flush the john. Hauling water is an activity that will keep you warm.

cj, when I was a musher I had several 13 dog nights out on the trail. They do like to snuggle up to ya. My Springer Spaniel, however likes sleeping on the bed, just wants most of it to himself.
 

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I have a wood burning stove in my basement which even without the electric blower will keep the basement a comfortably warm temp. If absolutely necessary I can close the staircase door to keep the majority of the warmth down in the basement. I have plenty of blankets, stored water, food and an assortment gas powered camping stoves. I also have the grill outside with 2 bottles of propane so while it may not be gourmet I can cook/heat as needed. Something I do want to make an effort to get more of are candles. I have a few but as with everything you typically never think you have enough.
 

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Cjleete, Isn't that how you determine how cold it is by the number of huskies that you want to sleep with you. I guess Three Dog Night had it figured out - must have been a cold one.
Mine are extra large and the female is really fluffy so I only need two.
 

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I have also been considering a generator for the purpose of keeping the Freezer/Fridge running but haven't felt the urge strongly enough to figure out how much generator I need for something like that.
 

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Erickson...

see if these help...

Buying Guide: Generators & Accessories

Generac Power Systems - Generator Sizer

Any licensed electrician should be able to give you a free estimate as to how large a generator you need, for what equipment you need to power. I wired ours through a box that automatically disconnects commercial power, before generator power can be energized... same thing in reverse.
 

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curl up with your huskies
Yeah, but what if she and her sister are at your mother in laws?? :) I keed!! I keed!! And the thought of a large dog curled up keeping my back warm brings a huge smile to my face!!

I have no care in the world if I lose power, if I'm home.. I heat with wood as long as I'm here and not in Georgia on a job..



I've cooked on it before, and I have several Aladdin lamps and plenty of kerosene for light.. In fact, it's the nights that get down to -20 degrees F that I relish.. My stove actually runs like it was designed (it's too big for my house) and I love walking around the house in a pair of shorts and having a window open.. :) (yes, I've done thing more times than I can count..)

As long as I'm home, bring on the cold!!! :)
 

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.......What would you do?........
Already done did it.

We have a wood stove, and a lot of firewood stacked up this Summer.

We also have a LOT of water stored in a non-freezing location.

Cast iron cookware is sitting next to the wood stove.

Lots of oil lamps and oil. Lots of candles. Lots of matches. Lots of good books to read, and board games to play.

Propane tank has 430 gallons, and we have a propane cook top on our kitchen stove.

5KW generator, and a spare, with lots of gas available, will be used when needed.

Lots of blankets and warm clothes are on hand.

Clothes drying rack is available to set in room with wood stove.

Lots of food is stashed.

Living in the mountains for 10 winters, with an average annual snow fall of 14 feet, and regular power outages, (one winter was 38 feet and three 5 day power outages), taught us what works.

Bring it on!
 

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gas grill. metal fire pit, and two fireplaces. Non electric coffe pot (absolutely essential) and the confidence to cook on the fireplace if needed.
One fireplace is in the living room and the other is downstairs in the family room which the wife and I use as our bedroom
 
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