well things have a way of changing, and in my case they change alot. i love to hike and camp on private property near my home here in kentucky. i thought i would have a handgun to take with me, i had bought a stoeger cougar 9mm. but some things came up i had to sell the gun, now it will be next year before i will have a chance to have enough for another handgun. i do however have h&r pardner pump protector with 18.5 inch barrel, it weighs however 7lbs. would the shotgun be a good choice fo hiking and camping? at one time i thought i might have to use it for this purpose but i was able to get the handgun now i'm back to the shotgun. what do ya'll think about carrying a shotgun for camping and hiking? also i put the regular stock back on it, which gives me better accuracy. thanks
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I think it's a fine defense gun. keep it handy, a scabbard, strapped to your pack or over your shoulder is good for this. keep it stocked with buck, and have a handful of bird, and maybe some slugs and you'll be good for cougars, black bear, snakes, bob cats, etc.
They are a little large/heavy for a hike, but no one can argue against their effectiveness.
They are a little large/heavy for a hike, but no one can argue against their effectiveness.
Put a soft rifle sling on it, sling it muzzle down on your 'off' shoulder, learn how to bring it into firing position with your off hand and as stated keep it loaded with buckshot, slug, buckshot. This is the exact rig that I had over my left shoulder all during my fly fishing trips while living in Alaska. I switched to the shotgun from a S&W 44mag after watching (from some distance) a large male grizzly drag off an about 600 lb. moose calf with no effort at all. .......... Big Cholla
This isn’t really a serious reply, but I do know of one nearly perfect shotgun for backpacking and hiking. It’s the Cobray/Leinad double barrel .410 Bore shotgun. A .410 bore using buckshot is effective against humans & medium sized predators & game out to about 25 yards or so, with bird shot being useful for game hunting out to about 15 yards or less, at least that’s what I have noticed with mine. It’s a cylinder bore by the way. Zero choke. For defense, I’d recommend using slugs. A .410 bore shot shell firing slugs is more powerful than a .357 Magnum +P round at the muzzle, and at 50 yards, has nearly identical muzzle velocity as a .357 Magnum at 50 yards. Past 50 yards, I wouldn’t even fire at anything, slugs or no, so that’s good enough for me. I’d still pack a pistol if we are talking defense, but short of an 8+ pound Baikal .22LR/.410 bore O/U drilling (which I bought after making my video), or an M6 Scout, which is rare & expensive, this is as good as it really gets. Or at least, that’s what I think.
P.S. This is my video of my own shotgun, plus others. I was very hesitant to put in my own videos, so be gentle with comments!
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P.S. This is my video of my own shotgun, plus others. I was very hesitant to put in my own videos, so be gentle with comments!
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teIzTidnDqE]My Unique Firearms Collection - YouTube[/ame]
I don't wish to pee in your Cheerios, but he already has the 12 gauge shot gun, and is asking for opinions on carrying IT while hiking and camping. He is not looking for a different gun, because he just had to sell a gun.
Aside from that, if one is going to carry a shot gun that is less powerful than a .44 Magnum, then for the weight and bulk, I would carry the .44 Magnum, instead.
To the OP.
YES! By all means carry the 12 gauge shot gun. As already mentioned, put a good sling on it with the muzzle down, and practice bringing it to firing position, until you can do so rapidly, with ease.
I have a Mossberg 500 configured in this fashion, and it is very handy.
It weighs less than an M1 Garand, which the GIs hiked for many miles with, all over Europe.:smokin:
Try this:
the H&R will accept 870 goodies so here we go:
a good pistol grip would keep the length down:
Pachmayr Vindicator Pistol Gripend Remington 870 12 Ga Rubber Black
and a MOLLE scabbard strapped to your pack would help:
Voodoo Tactical 20-8916 Breacher's Shotgun Scabbard
(i have one of these and love it))
and to store the shells:
MOLLE Shotgun Shell Ammo Pouch For Assault Vest
be sure to keep plenty slugs and birdshot with you (in my opinion, buckshot is almost pointless in a "non-combat" scenario)
the H&R will accept 870 goodies so here we go:
a good pistol grip would keep the length down:
Pachmayr Vindicator Pistol Gripend Remington 870 12 Ga Rubber Black
and a MOLLE scabbard strapped to your pack would help:
Voodoo Tactical 20-8916 Breacher's Shotgun Scabbard
(i have one of these and love it))
and to store the shells:
MOLLE Shotgun Shell Ammo Pouch For Assault Vest
be sure to keep plenty slugs and birdshot with you (in my opinion, buckshot is almost pointless in a "non-combat" scenario)
Yup. Rumor has it that they didn't just stroll along the lanes either. There are unconfirmed reports of GIs actually running while carrying Garands. Boy, they must have been super-human back then.:boggled:
That TOTALLY depends on the shooter.
I have no problem with it.
However, I will add that I shoot full power .44 Magnum loads from a 4" barrel S&W 329, single handed, with no problem, either.
If it is a shotgun you are looking for I would suggest a 'youth model' 20 ga. A Mossberg would be my first choice, then the Remington only because the Mossberg is sell expensive. You may have a hard time finding a short bbl (18.5 inch) but you can have one made or make it yourself. I have a Mossberg 20 ga in both the youth and full size. The youth model is for my wife and the full size I cut an old bbl to 18.25 inch for an 'around the farm' gun.
Hope this helped.
Hope this helped.
Having read all of the replies this time (Ten Man), they also make a shotgun (probably NEF) that is a single shot top-break (12 or 20 gauge) that has a synthetic stock with shot shell holder in the stock. I forget what it is called, exactly.
As for carrying an existing shotgun, unless you sling it, or take the barrel off and pack it as two pieces, I don't think you can do much else.
They also sell the "survival" Mossberg 500 cruiser that comes in a neat tube with some extras, and you could lash that to a pack. Too expensive for what you are getting though.
As for carrying an existing shotgun, unless you sling it, or take the barrel off and pack it as two pieces, I don't think you can do much else.
They also sell the "survival" Mossberg 500 cruiser that comes in a neat tube with some extras, and you could lash that to a pack. Too expensive for what you are getting though.
Did any of you guys read his post?
He is not looking to buy another shot gun.
He is not looking to buy another gun.
He asked for opinions on carrying his existing, long stocked, 12 gauge Pardner shot gun, for hiking and camping.
He is not looking to buy another shot gun.
He is not looking to buy another gun.
He asked for opinions on carrying his existing, long stocked, 12 gauge Pardner shot gun, for hiking and camping.
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I picked up this nifty little Circuit judge for walking around out at the Ranch , comes in handy. so far I scored a raccoon and 2 armadillos
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Maybe folding convertible stock--I have this on my mossy 20 ga which goes from pistol to stock in a couple of seconds. Get the best of both worlds with no real additional weight. Great home defense gun; you could get the same for 12ga. The stock isn't comfortable to shoot all day but that is not its purpose, and the pistol grip preserved for close in work, compactness, or fast employment.
I've done a fair bit of shooting from the pistol grip with slugs. Inside 30 feet it is fine but outside of that I would say most people will miss with slugs. I think most could handle the recoil of a pistol grip with time and practice.
The circuit court judge is a nice little rifle/shotgun for critters around the farm--and is compact and very easy to tote around; its manual of arms is also suitable for those not very mechanically inclined (I have trained some of these folks) or those comfortable with a revolver. You can load it with 45 colts as well, but IMHO the gun's work needs to be inside of 30 to 40 yards no matter what you are shooting (I get KINDA dinner plate accuracy of the colts at 50 yds).
Shotgun for hiking
I believe that a shotgun for camping is an excellent idea but I have done a lot of hiking myself and I can tell you that one thing I don't need is an extra 7 lbs. to lug around cuz it might not seem like a lot but on a long hike I would feel like tossing it in the bush somewhere. Get a handgun with a shoulder holster. It's protected under your arm from snagging branches, you have to free hands, and you won't feel like abandoning it halfway through your hike.
I believe that a shotgun for camping is an excellent idea but I have done a lot of hiking myself and I can tell you that one thing I don't need is an extra 7 lbs. to lug around cuz it might not seem like a lot but on a long hike I would feel like tossing it in the bush somewhere. Get a handgun with a shoulder holster. It's protected under your arm from snagging branches, you have to free hands, and you won't feel like abandoning it halfway through your hike.
won't be getting a handgun for awhile, i needed help on carrying a shotgun hiking mabe with a scabbard or sling. i have a friend who has offered to trade me a 22 for my shotgun but i won't get rid of it as its my home gun. thanks
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