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Midway has a strange way of dealing with things that are on hard backorder and unobtainable. In the past several months they have undoubtedly missed multiple millions of sales on the Winchester Small Rifle Primers. Rather than showing them on back order with no promise date their system shows lots of stuff like that as "discontinued". Be advised though that months down the road from now when the chronic backorder problem with all primers is resolved Midway's bean counters will have a place in their inventory system that does not classify Winchester Small Rifle Primers as "discontinued".
But they are not discontinued, they are simply unavailable in the retail marketplace for many months.
 
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Similarly if you go to the "Powder Valley" website now and click on Reloading > and then Primers you get the following message.

"No products were found matching your selection."

^^ That doesn't mean that they no longer intend to stock primers; it basically indicates that their staff doesn't have time to answer thousands of phone calls and emails everyday about the availability of any and all primers...
 
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I remember one LGS, that I only do a minimal business with anymore, incorrectly told me Remington Ammo had completely discontinued their Hog Hunter line of ammo
Well for a few years afterwards it was still sold by Natchez RSS.
I figure their key distributor dropped it aka discontinued it and they didn't know where else to get it or assumed Remington did.🙄

However, it may be the case where Winchester has stopped sale of specific components until they get caught up on production of ammunition for both commercial and military orders.
 
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I remember one LGS, that I only do a minimal business with anymore, incorrectly told me Remington Ammo had completely discontinued their Hog Hunter line of ammo
Well for a few years afterwards it was still sold by Natchez RSS.
I figure their key distributor dropped it aka discontinued it and they didn't know where else to get it or assumed Remington did.🙄

However, it may be the case where Winchester has stopped sale of specific components until they get caught up on production of ammunition for both commercial and military orders.
I was gonna say, but yea, (this is speculation on my part) but considering that Olin/Winchester won the govt. contract to take over and run the Lake City ammo plant for the military (It used to be Federal Ammo) I wonder if they have had to divert resources to start filling the military contracts. They started the transition phase from Federal to Olin last october.
 
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I guess I'd rather it show discontinued on their site, than them continuing to take backorders, or keeping an actually-discontinued item on their site for years.

As soon as we realized some of this stuff was not coming in any time soon, we stopped talking backorders and went to a call list model.

I know another company that has several items on their site that they haven't carried since 2016 or before. I am reminded of this when someone calls asking if I will price match a competitor's price (in general, we have the lowest price anywhere on most of our stock, but I will often price match if I do not, and it isn't a going-out-of-business/factory seconds/bent-and-dent scenario).

As soon as they tell me the items, I know which competitor they are talking about, and vice versa. One site in particular discontinued a certain item in 2012. From 2014 to 2018 we were the only company in the country that carried this item. People wanted us to honor a fairly old price from the days when every company in America still carried this thing.
Another no-longer-competitor hasn't updated his page since the first Obama administration, the security certificate for the website expired maybe six years ago, and the associated phone number and e-mail are dead. You have to go hundreds of pages deep into Google to even find the site, and when you find it it looks like a Geocities or Myspace page from the early 2000s. Still, people will want a price match with a company that is basically a curious artifact.
 
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I have my own opinion on supply of all primers. Primers are an important component in making a bullet. So for the past year there is a shortage of ammunition and cant hardly find certain pistol nd rifle calibers. I look at it as common sense why we will not see any primers. They need every damn primer they can produce to keep for their own production of ammunition. I simply see any primers on shelves till the ammunition situation comes back around and production of ammo caught up.